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it's time for our summer sidekick. timing is perfect because today is fox news senior white house correspondent ed henry. >> we'll have fun. there's a lot of news going on. we have to get to that. >> that is ben rhodes. >> we were expecting him to get a lot of questions, and i'm sure he will, about isis. to give you nature of the threat, the u.s. is facing, he's talking about ukraine right now. it gives you an idea as president gets pounded for golfing throughout this after execution and all of that. there are still problems in ukraine as well. there's a lot on the plate. >> a convoy of more than 130 russian aid trucks started moving amove ing across the border. >> pentagon issuing a new threat about isis terrorists at home. >> chuck hagel defends a white house and pentagon decision to release information on the secret mission to rescue
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journalist james foley. >> critics voice concerns about the disclosure jeopardizing other hostages who terrorists have threatened to kill if the u.s. continues air strikes against isis in iraq which has been happening. national security correspondent jennifer griffin live at the pentagon now with the latest. a lot on their mind at the pentagon. >> reporter: in fact, ed, foley's parents were interviewed earlier today and they said they felt much better after they received a condole cans call fr from the pope. they were asked about the last e-mail received from their son's captors a week ago. >> i was excited to see an e-mail despite the conclusion they would execute jim. i underestimated at that point. i did not realize how brutal they were. >> the president described isis in an interview with the new yorker in january as jv
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terrorists. admiral kirby explained the daylight between that statement and why defense secretary hagel described isis as beyond any terror group this country had ever seen. >> to say that it was slow footed or done in a hand fisted manner or that it was an intel failure, does a disservice to the immense amount of work and courageous decision it was to move forward to make the attempt. >> and admiral kirby went on about how they had grown in capability. we'll throw it back to you so you can go up to ben rhodes. >> jennifer griffin thank you so much. ben rhodes is taking questions about isis. >> we see a threat to the united states emanating from anywhere. we stand ready to take action against that threat. we have made very clear time and again if you come after americans, we'll come after you wherever you are. and that's what's going to guide our planning in the days ahead.
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>> has the president signed off on air strikes against isil in syria? >> i don't want to get ahead of decisions. the president hasn't been presented with specific military options outside of those that are carrying out the current missions in iraq. we would certainly look at what is necessary in the long-term to make sure we're protecting americans. again, the long-term strategy is going to have to involve people on the ground taking the fight to isil and that's iraqi and kurdish forces. that is syrians who we are supporting on the ground. but if we have a need to protect americans and to take action when we see plotting against the united states and our interests, we'll reserve the right to do so. i'm not going to get ahead of those decisions. >> it's fair to say that you are actively considering air strikes against isil targets in syria? >> you heard the president say we'll be relentless against isil
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and do what's necessary to protect americans and see that justice is done from what we saw of killing of jim foley. we're actively considering what's necessary to deal with that threat and we're not going to be restricted by borders. we have shown time and again that if there's a counterterrorism threat, we'll take direct action against that threat if necessary. >> last thing on ukraine, the russian convoy, do you see that as direct invasion of ukraine? >> well, at this point again, we see this as part of a pattern of violation of ukrainian sovereignty. direct incursion into their territory. they have masses on the border which would be a further escalation were they to move into ukraine. we're giving the russians a clear message they need to remove this convoy from inside of ukraine's borders. if they don't, we will be making determinations with our international partners about how to ratchet up the cost and consequences on them. clearly, again, this is not
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something that has started today. so from arming and training of russian backed separatists to shootdown of the flight, this adds to escalation in a dangerous way. they need to take a path to de-escalation or they'll find themselves further isolated not just from eastern ukraine but the entire world. >> the way the administration and others are talking about isis today, it's different than what the president said earlier why. would you agree with his assessment a few months ago? >> i think what the president was speaking to a few months ago was the fact of the matter is you have many different groups operating across the middle east and north africa. as we shift from a situation in which the counterterrorism threat emanated from al qaeda. we'll need to evaluate which of these groups pose a threat to the united states and which group poses a threat to personnel in the region and which of these groups are more
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localized militia type forces that are dangerous but can be handled by local security forces. clearly isil, which has a long history and origin dating back to al qaeda in iraq, has gained capacity in the last several months as the fighting in syria has given them safe haven there and as they advance iraq and gained heavy rweaponry and they become better funding through various funding streams including what they're able to sell in terms of oil and gas, the ransoms they've been able to obtain and that has developed their capacity in a way that has increased the threat. they pose a greater threat today than they did six months ago and we take it very seriously including direct military action we're taking in iraq. that includes the increased support we provided to the iraqi and kurdish forces and syrian opposition and we'll do what's necessary to deal with this
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counterterrorism challenge. >> former cia deputy director said of jim foley's death "this is isis' first terrorist attack against the united states." do you agree with that assessment? is that a terrorist attack against the united states? >> absolutely when you see somebody killed in such a horrific way, that represents a terrorist attack. that represents a terrorist attack against our country and against an american citizen and i think all of us have the foley family in our thoughts and prayers. the fact of the matter is that we've actually seen isil seek to advance close to our facilities certainly for our own comfort. and so the president's decision to make military action a number of weeks ago was out of direct concern if they were able to get into erbil they could pose a threat to our personnel and our consulate there. so we have seen them pose a threat to our interest in the region to our personnel and
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facilities in the region and clearly the brutal execution of jim foley represented an affront, an attack, not just on him but an american and we see that as an attack on our country when one of our own is killed like that. >> how would you assess the threat they pose to americans living in the united states? do you take their threats seriously? >> vewe have to take their thres seriously. they operated like an insurge y insurgency. they are deeply rooted in insurgency we faced in iraq for many years as a legacy organization of al qaeda in iraq and they, of course, pose a huge threat to the people in that region and it's important to underscore as the president did the other day that it's not simply the threat they pose to the united states, but the threat they pose to the entire world and they've killed thousands of civilians and they have killed muslims more than
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any other faith. so whatever pretense they have to establish themselves as speaking for the muslim world, i think it's completely disproven by their actions in that part of the world. for americans in the homeland, i think what we would say is we monitor very closely whether or not isil will seek to develop plots that are aimed at the west, aimed at beyond this geographic area where they have been operating. we are doing that. we are actively consulting with european partners about how to watch the threat that they could pose to the west. we take their threats seriously because we have to take every threat that's made against the united states seriously. we're going to deal with that through our action and strategy we have in the region to squeeze them. we're also dealing with it through homeland security and the president will convene at the head of state level a u.n. security council meeting in september to deal with the issue of foreign fighters who are heading to syria because we're
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concerned about the ability of foreign fighters to come from western countries and seek to come back. >> could they pull off a 9/11 size attack? are they capable of that? >> look, to date we have not seen them focus on that type of planning. but that doesn't mean we're not going to be very mindful that they could quickly aim to pivot to attacks against western targets outside of the region. and so again, this is something we're going to monitor very closely because we certainly take seriously the fact that this is an organization that has fighters that are willing to do horrific things as we saw in that video and as we've seen as they massacre innocent civilians in iraq. they have significant stream of funding that they've acquired over the last year or two. and again, if they show the intent or they show plotting against the united states, we'll be prepared to deal with that as
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necessary. >> a bigger picture of what we're doing in iraq, is the united states now engaged in a broad terrorism effort to defeat isil? >> the iraqi government is certainly the front of an effort to defeat isil inside of iraq and we're providing support in order to do that. the strategy is one we want to evict isil from their safe havens and squeeze the base they're operating in and ultimately push them out of that space. our contribution to that will come in many ways. it comes in the form of the air strikes that are protecting baghdad and erbil given space for iraqi forces to push forward against isil. it comes in the form of military assistance and advice and intelligence sharing we have with forces on the ground and it comes with our political support in service of a new and inclusive iraqi government, which should be able to broaden the coalition against isil so
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that we see more of iraq's neighbors working with, for instance, sunni communities to evict isil. this is going to have to be a te we have very unique capabilities that we can bring to bear in supporting those on the ground working to fight against isil on the front lines. >> basic question. is it the objective of u.s. efforts here to defeat isil. is that a u.s. objective? >> absolutely in the long-term our objective would be to see an organization like isil defeated. our military objectives -- i'm separating out the fact that we have military objectives that the president has articulated that aim to protect our facilities in iraq and prevent humanitarian catastrophe. in that long-term strategy of working for defeat of isil, we'll participate not just through our military action but through our training and equipping of iraqi security forces, kurdish security forces
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on the ground because ultimately they are the ones who will have to work to evict isil from their communities and again their efforts to form an inclusive government in iraq will go a long way toward enlisting support of those communities who have been somewhat disaffected from the government in recent years. >> i would like you to respond to jim foley's brother, his emotional comments. the united states could have done more. >> first of all, our hearts go out to mr. foley and the entire foley family. i cannot imagine how it must feel to lose a loved one and to lose a loved one in such a horrible way. and i certainly understand that any family would want to make sure that we are moving heaven and earth to find and bring home american hostages. i can assure you that we have done everything that we can possibly do to try to bring home our hostages. it's an incredibly difficult
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circumstance in a place like syria where you have such a v l violent conflict raging. we have done all of our resources that we can bring to bear to find out where our hostages are to try to rescue them when we saw an opportunity and work with any country that has any means of locating them and tragically we weren't able to rescue mr. foley. we're going to keep trying for all of our hostages not just in syria but around the world. >> how many american hostages have been killed by isil? >> we don't want to put out a specific number out of respect for the fact there are sensitivities involved in that. it's a small number of hostages held within syria and we're going to continue to do whatever we can to try to bring them home. every day they are in custody is a day that they are at risk. major? >> the white house said the goal is to contain isil.
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secretary of state two days later said the goal was to destroy isil. which is it and how far and how long are we prepared to carry out whichever campaign it is? >> major, i think the president has spoken to the fact that our military objectives in iraq right now are limited to protecting our personnel and facilities and addressing this humanitarian crisis. we have to be clear that this is a deeply rooted organization. they have been there for ten years. when you go back to aqi, it's going to take time, a long time, to fully evict them from the communities where they operate. we can do things in the immediate term to address the threat to the united states and our people and to push them back and to give space for the security forces who are taking the fight to them. we can create a coalition that can support iraqis and moderate syrian operation and their efforts top squeeze isil. that's what we're doing. it's going to take time when you talk about an objective like the ultimate defeat of isil, it's
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time to dislodge a group that's been operating in this part of the world for the better part of a decade in an insurgency. we can address the threat to the united states. give the security forces the space they need. go on the offense. push them out of the communities they're in and work toward the goal of defeating isil. this is a cancer that has to be eradicated. that's how we look at this. we need near term goals that put safety of americans front and center and long-term work with partners to defeat this organization. >> first contain and then destroy? >> obviously by definition, major, you need to contain the threat. yes. but as you're doing that, you need to make sure that if there's a threat to the american people, that we have the ability to take action and that's what the president did, for instance when they were bearing down on our facilities in erbil. but we are already pushing them back. you saw after we began our air
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strikes, for instance, the kurdish forces with support were able to retake the mosul dam. that's the dynamic that we're seeing to foster. one that doesn't just contain but that allows those forces on the ground to go on the offense. [ inaudible question ] >> what degree has the president been briefed on that and any dialogue going on about sending additional assets to the region, hospitals, that might be able to provide some assistance to some number of people affected in those countries by this virus. >> we always look at whatever resources necessary to deal with an outbreak like ebola that we've seen. we have prioritized getting people and resources on the ground in places like liberia
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and sierra leone. there are clear steps we believe they can take to contain the outbreak and to make sure that people are getting appropriate care. that's what we focused on with cdc and other u.s. agencies and if there are opportunities for us to do additional things, we'll review those but the best solution in our mind is to put the public health infrastructure in place in those countries to contain this outbreak, treat those who are suffering from it, and ensure it doesn't spread beyond their borders. i don't have any updates on additional military resources. we focussed on public health resources to date. mike? >> when the president announced air strikes in iraq, he came to the american people and made a statement and he laid out a specific case for what was happening and was going to happen and not going happen. do you all believe that that case that he made then covers
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what you might do in syria as well both from a public relations perspective, what he needs to tell the american people and then on the legal size are there things if you all decide to take military action in syria along the lines that you just talked about to protect american interest, would he have could come to congress or additional legal here or in the united states or international legal authority that he would have to seek to do that? >> on your first question, mike, the president always keeps the american people updated about the status of any military action and major foreign policy actions. even since he announced those air strikes earlier this month, i would note that he has spoken a number of times to developments in iraq and developments associated with our efforts against isil. so clearly i think any additional action he would take is one he would explain to the american people whether it's in
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iraq or anywhere else and we will keep the american people fully informed. i think the american people understand that this president is very deliberate about the use of force. he doesn't rush towards a military option. he takes very seriously when we put u.s. military action on the table. when we have pilots flying missions like air strikes undertaking in iraq. however, i think the american people also understand that there are some threats that have to be dealt with. and we're dealing with a threat from isil in iraq by protecting our people there. and as we have done against al qaeda around the world, we'll take whatever action is necessary to protect our people and president obama has shown he'll do that whether it's in pakistan, with the bin laden operation, in yemen, in somalia, we will take direct action against terrorists who threaten the united states. even as we develop long-term solutions that empower partners on the ground.
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with respect to legal matters, i wouldn't want to prejudge an action that we haven't taken. i would say that the actions we're taking in iraq are at the invitation of the iraqi government and consistent with the president's constitutional authority. the action that we took to try to rescue hostages in syria was entirely legal of course because we were seeking to save americans from eminent danger and that is at the core of justification for military action. i think that any additional actions that we take, we would want to consult with congress. >> things that you have drawn about iraq was that you were invited in is what you just mentioned. syria that wouldn't be the case. isn't there a distinction and wouldn't you have to -- >> i don't want to speak hypothetically about an action we haven't taken. to take the example of what we did, you don't need to be invited in if you are trying to rescue your people from imminent danger. that's the basis for the action we took to try to rescue our
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hostages. going forward we would have legal justification for any action we take and i do want to be clear. we would consult with congress. this is again a problem that we have to deal with as a nation. and so whether it's our ongoing operations in iraq or additional steps that may need to be taken against isil, we would carry those out in close consultation with congress about their support and their role in providing support for our efforts. >> you've been listening to ben rhodes, the deputy national security adviser with the president who continues to be on vacation but the world continues to be on fire with multiple crises now developing. this briefing started with what's going on in ukraine today. russia moving 130 convoys akrcrs that border. what's the united states going to do about that to quickly the discussion of isis with ben
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rhodes being pummeled with questions about was this a terrorist attack against the united states? will the united states engage in air strikes in syria now? no succinct answers to that question after question after question. time to bring in ed henry for your analysis of what we just listened to. >> a lot of tough questions. a lot of ducking and weaving frankly because ben rhodes realizes the president hasn't made all of these decisions yet. the last thing he wants to do is get ahead of it. there is nuance in there when he said in terms of isis in syria, we stand ready to take action. one year ago the president at this very time, end of summer, was about to take action in syria. u.s. air strikes. said he believed he had the power to do it without congress but wanted to go to congress to first get their approval. never got that. pulled back. now we seem to be standing at that point once again because this threat from isis as you say is not just syria, it's iraq and
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potentially the u.s. homeland. he got that question as well. what you said about the question about is our objective to defeat isis? major garrett pointed out that it's to contain them. john kerry said to defeat them. is it the objective to defeat them? ben rhodes said in the long-term. listen to what defense secretary chuck hagel said yesterday. he didn't say we had long-term or a lot of time. this a threat worse than al qaeda was before 9/11. sounds like something we need to do now. >> martin dempsey went on to say the only way to defeat them was to go into syria, which seemed to be the direct opposite of what the administration had said. >> so defense officials military and civilians not boxing the president in a corner but maybe pressuring him that air strikes in iraq in a limited way have had some impact and prevented possibly a genocide and gotten mosul dam back. we need to step it up in not just iraq but syria. that's what general dempsey
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said. >> ben rhodes said if you come after us, we'll come after you, as attorney general eric holder launches a criminal investigation to court here, the killers of james foley. great to see you, mr. attorney general. >> good to be with you. >> there's so much going on here. first and foremost, with mr. holder saying that this is a criminal investigation, americans were sitting back hearing that over the last several days saying isn't that what we did with benghazi too and it took quite some time to apprehend even just one suspect in that case. so is a criminal investigation going to work with regard to the beheading of james foley? >> i don't think so. what happened on the video was clearly a crime. obviously the department of justice is charged with prosecuting crimes. i hope the u.s. government will address this threat by using
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intelligence and economy economic influence we can wield and take advantage of our foreign policy. from my perspective, it's more than a crime. as the white house spokesman said, this was an act of terrorism. i worry about the fact the white house at times talks to us. the problem is what are they going to do about it? what are we going to really do in response to this beheading? i know it takes time. it takes time to put together a plan. it takes time to identify the leadership. it takes time to identify targets. it takes time to work with the allies because you want to the extent your going to do something, you want to bring other allies along with you. i think we're in the situation today because this administration waits and waits and lets problems fester and fester until they become so bad there are no good options and so we are confronted with where we are today. as you say, the world really is on fire. >> i wonder if i can jump in.
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i remember covering you in the bush administration. you were in on these decisions about what legal rights the president has in terms of waging war. that question of ben rhodes wants to let the president speak on this. what's your standpoint? does the president have power to launch u.s. air strikes in syria without congress and from a security standpoint beyond the legal standpoint based on what you hear from general dempsey, is it imperative for the u.s. to launch air strikes not just in iraq but syria as well? >> even if you assume that the war powers act is constitutional, that does allow the united states, the president of the united states, to execute military action in response to a threat or in response to an actual attack. so i think you can make an argument that in fact this has been an attack against u.s. interest. the killing of an american citizen. and the response can be use of force. i think it has to be proportional. it has to be somewhat limited.
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i do believe that an argument can be made that the president can use force in response to this kind of threat. >> mr. attorney general, there's been a lot of discussion in the last couple days or actually yesterday when a state department spokesperson said that the united states does not negotiate with terrorists. and many people watching right now, myself included, thought at the time, didn't we negotiate with terrorists to get back sergeant bowe bergdahl? my question to you is did we and secondarily, michael foley, the brother of james foley, has said that he wants the united states to change the policy to possibly negotiate with terrorists and actually exchange ransom. your thoughts? >> i don't support -- first of all, let me just say that obviously if i had a loved one that had been kidnapped, i would want the government to do anything possible in order to have that person returned safely. it is a very difficult policy to try to develop and to follow and the problem of course is that once you pay a ransom, it's
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going to encourage other kidnappings and that's just not a place where i think it's good for the united states government. i worry about the disclosure of the fact that we tried a military operation in order to rescue him. what it's going to do is alert the terrorist groups around the world holding u.s. hostages that we're prepared to take certain kinds of military action and that's probably going to cause them to harden their defenses. i worry that we talk even at a general level that we're willing to undertake these kind of operations. >> mr. attorney general, alberto gonzalez, thank you for being around to give your analysis today. a lawmaker has had choice words for jay nixon and handling of the crisis in ferguson. from her twitter account "f-you, governor. i'm calling your bull [ bleep ]."
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outspoken missouri democratic state senator maria chappell nadal. were you one that signed a petition wanting the st. louis county prosecuting attorney to not be on the case? >> actually i did not sign the petition, but i do have several of my constituents who have. over 70,000 people who signed the petition. i had a lot of protesters out with yard signs saying they don't want to have bob mcculloch to be the prosecuting attorney. >> what do they not like about him? >> there's a lot of mistrust. i don't follow all of bob mccullouch's cases. my constituents don't have a lot of faith in him. we are friends but i have to be on the side of my constituents in this matter. >> right now he says there's no
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way that he's leaving his position or the case. eric holder, the attorney general was in ferguson on wednesday. did that help? >> you know what? i have to stay it did. there are two triggers in this community that really settled things down. the first one being eric holder coming but the second one is having captain johnson here, hometown guy, being on the face of every single tv in this community and in this region so those two elements have definitely changed the temperament of this community and the other thing, the third thing that has calmed people down, there are certain elements in our protests that had to be disposed of and luckily police officers found those entities causing trouble and havoc and they're now gone. >> are you still out every night protesting? >> i am out every single morning. last night i was out until 11:00 at night. i started out at 6:00 a.m. so today it was about 7:45, 7:30
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i started. and i'll be out again at 7:00 this evening. it's really hot here in st. louis and so the heat index is about 105. so we're trying to stay hydrated right now. i'm going to see how long my body allows me to go today. >> if the attorney general helped the situation, its national guard now moved out, why are people still protesting? what do you want to hear to stop protesting? >> well, let me just tell you what my constituents are looking at right now. they want to see how everything goes with the prosecuting attorney and just make sure all of the facts are presented to the grand jury. that may take up to october as bob mccullough has stated before. if there's an indictment, there's one trigger point. if there is an indictment, will there be a conviction. there are several people out
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there including protesters who i have been with this morning who feel like there won't be a conviction. if that happens, we're going to have exactly what you saw two weeks ago with a lot of tear gas going all over the place and probably some rubber -- >> the problem is, senator, that there are two sides to this story and many of the facts have not yet come out in the case. so i guess to predict what people are going to do before it actually happens would be a futle effort. thank you. have a good weekend. isis claims to have at least one more american hostage and they say they may execute him as well. >> his name is steven sotloff. jonathan, i know there is limited information about where he is, what's the best guess in terms of how to track him down? >> we do not know, ed. u.s. officials are obviously
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studying that terrible video that was released online that showed steven sotloff being threatened. if they have clues as to where he may be, they're not sharing it with us. 31 years old freelance journalists. those who worked with him in syria and before that in libya say he's a great guy and a great writer. i just off from talking to an editor and she said that sotloff is young and funny and irreverent. he's a great storyteller and also smart and committed. even in the worse circumstances, obsessed with american sports as evidence by the last tweet he sent out before he disappeared.
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he said how much of an impact will big man greg oden have with miami heat next season? that was sent out on august 3rd last year. he hasn't been heard from since then but seen in that awful video. >> so have we heard anything else from steven sotloff's family? >> his family has not said a word. in these situation, families have a choice. say nothing for fear of antagonizing captors or say something in hopes publicity will add to pressure on those captives. now, the foley parents have said not a word since then. there is a white house petition up right now calling for president obama to do everything possible to have steven sotloff freed that has 8,000 signatures right now. also worth pointing out as we wrap this up, he's not the only american journalist held captive
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in syria. we know of another one, a former u.s. marine, he's been missing for two years and his family took the opposite part. they've kept him in the headlines. i spoke to them last week on the second anniversary of austin's disappearance and another family going through inging ao ing in . the administration showing a disconnect on the isis threat. president describing the terror group as a jv team in february and this week chuck hagel offering this dire warning. >> they are an imminent threat to every interest that we have whether in iraq or anywhere else. >> this was just addressed in the white house briefing. fair and balanced debate on the big mixed message coming up. team usa going above and beyond using their skills on the basketball court to honor our nation's heroes. >> new research on fans of the erotic fictional novel. watch out, guys.
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the obama administration sending mixed messages about the terrorists known as isis. chuck hagel warning the group is more dangerous than al qaeda before 9/11. but here's what president obama had to say about isis in an interview published in january. "the analogy we use sometimes and i think it's accurate is that if a jv team puts on lakers uniform, that doesn't make them kobe bryant." today the white house had more to say and pentagon went out of its way to show everyone is on
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the same page. >> there's no divergence. this is august. you're talking about comments made in january. isil -- we've been watching this for months. they've grown in capability. i've said it from the podium as have others. >> allen combs and mike gallagher join us. allen, which one is it? now we've known about isis according to ben rhodes at the top of the hour for ten years. but earlier today, you know, a couple months since we've been following isis. which one is it? >> it's both. the fact is that people are critical of obama. he can never do enough. either not doing enough or doing too much or when he's bombing, he's not bombing enough and rick perry said he needs to do more yesterday at the heritage foundation. things have changed since january. by the way, he could have said jv as a tactic to diminish them
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and furthermore, lots of change since january. better funded. they're getting more money. what was true in january is not true right now. >> the president's message when he ran re-election is al qaeda is on the run. giving the impression to americans that the war on terror was not significant anymore and look where we are today. >> i have a source in the intelligence community who said that jv comment was one of the most dreadful things a commander in chief could say about these people. you could make an argument that 19 men with box cutters was a jv operation and look what they accomplished. they are evil. sophisticated and smart and it reflects on the president's inability to understand the severity and recognize the scope of this. >> or to downplay the scope of it because this is what he campaigned on. he does not want to have any boots on the ground but we have boots on the ground. >> neither do most americans. nor should we. >> look where we are today?
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>> i am so tired of people on the right continuing to criticize this president in crisis situations. nothing he ever does is good enough. >> i don't necessarily disagree with you. the deheading of james foley should unite us and we should be more unified and not be partisan. i agree with that. >> we couldn't go into syria because we didn't have an opposition force to partner with. who do we partner with if now he's criticized for not going into syria sooner. >> there are things he can do. he shouldn't play golf while the parents of james foley are grieving. >> even liberals have said that was not the correct decision. >> i don't think he should be photographed on vacation and playing golf. >> that's different from fist bumping his buddies on the golf course when foley's parents are saying what happened to our son?
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>> he's permitted to do something that every other president has done. >> not every president. george w. bush stopped playing golf. he never played golf after he was shown -- >> i have good news for you. charles agrees with you today. he has said that he agrees with what president obama has done thus far. but, each day brings something new and a lot of americans are concerned about many situations going on in the world. alan and mike, have a good weekend. help military soar to new heights. team usa. the players practicing at west point as part of a unique program where basketball stars help to honor our nation's heroes. >> we have chairman of team usa. i was in vegas a couple weeks ago trying the tryout for the team. about to make final cuts. the big question after the break, am i going to make the
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team? >> don't count on it. >> you're supposed to save it. you're counting me out. >> more or less. >> we have a big story coming up next.
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welcome back to "the real story." some of our nation's heroes are teaming up. team usa, coach k and are arriving at west point earlier this week for a practice with more than 4,000 military members and their families. >> i love west point. it's the foundation of what i am. cadets said, coach, we're
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honored that you're here. and i wanted them to know that we're honored to be here. >> my first time ever to come to an academy like this. it puts everything in perspective. >> saw derrick rose there. chairman martin dempsey presented military style dog tags to team usa players at the beginning of their last game wednesday against dominican republic at madison square garden. they're playing tonight, team usa against puerto rico. joining us now, the chairman of usa basketball. we appreciate you being here. talk to us first about why hoops for troops and connecting it with our heroes because you speak very passionately about how important it is for the country to rally around team usa. >> well, we basically are proud americans. we are proud to present our country on the international stage and who better to represent us than military who put their lives on the line for us. and this is a small way that we can support them, give back, and
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so we're really intwined with the military around -- around the world. we go to bases, nelles air force base in has va gaslas vegas, ko, et cetera. basketball is the number one sport in the military. they love the game. >> so many people are so thankful for that, i'm sure. now, i know that ed mentioned you played dominican republic on wednesday uerto rico tonight. i understand there was an exchange of dog tags. >> there was. it was symbolic gesture of, you know, when you think of military people and the dog tags and what it stands for, for the military to give our players dog tags to take with them as they go overse overseas, which is what we're doing. we leave for spain on saturday morning. it was another -- more than symbolic.
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it was just another tying of the knot between the military and usa basketball. >> when practice happened and first exhibition was in vegas. i was with my family at that game when paul george from the indiana pacers had that horrific leg injury. you saw the videotape. the good that came out of it though in terms of how you and coach k alied behind him and his family. wednesday night i went to the game and saw general dempsey. a reporter asked him at news conference what do you say to these nba players who make all of this money and risk so much, why would they play for team usa? he was listening and said, you know what, i've had this uniform, not a basketball uniform, i've had this military uniform on for some 40 years. haven't really made a lot of money but my men and women risk a lot more than these players. >> absolutely. the one thing we tried to change was culture. back nine years ago when coach k and i took over usa basketball. and that was pride in being an american, pride to represent
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your country. we got buy in from all the players. all these things we do along the way are to so lloyd fi who we are. >> amazing venture. hoops and troops and so much more for what you're doing. thank you for stopping by and telling us about it. well, coming up on the show, new developments in the now famous monkey selfie. we've got the new 1200-page ruling as to who actually owns it. right back. you're driving along,
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here's what america is clicking on today. a study claims fans of the erotic novel "fifty shades of gra" are more likely to binge drink. >> okay. thank you for clarifying. u.s. regulators now ruling this monkey selfie cannot be copyrighted by the human's whose
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camera the monkey used. the monkey grabbed the camera from a nature photographer and then took the picture which quickly went viral. >> good to be on with you. >> very important news day. thanks for being part of "the real story." here is harris. >> thank you, both. the terror group isis now out with what appears to be a chilling new threat to america. warning, they will soon kill another u.s. citizen. and it comes just days after that group released a video of a militant beheading american journalist james foley. so what can the u.s. military do now and could we have to team up with the brutal syrian regime to stop isis from spreading? also, a police officer now under arrest accused of sexually assaulting several women during traffic stops. investigators now reportedly are looking for more potential victims.

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